Archive for September, 2007

How Kat Got Scammed

September 25, 2007

My Kimkins Journey:

I saw the Woman’s World article in June and joined immediately (about, June 4, 2007). I was not new to Low Carbing (had done it many, many years before) and this looked to me (from the article) like Atkins but less fat, etc. I was planning on starting Atkins the following week anyway.

I immediately hooked up with about 15 other women who had started at the same time. We started a thread called the June Bugs and checked in each day with each other and started to get to know one another.

Most of us did pretty well on the K/E diet version. Some had some problems with not feeling real well, etc. but we all basically ignored our symptoms as we were told it is all part of the SNATT (Simply Nauseous All the Time) and we would get into Ketosis quicker and lose weight quicker. 

Everyone was happy with pretty fast weight loss the first couple of weeks. I don’t know who was “tweaking” and who was not. (If any) 

About 3 weeks into the diet (June 25, 2007) someone asked about the pictures of Kimmer, and me being the big mouth that I am, I posted a thread with both pictures side-by-side and asked “Are These Both Kimmer?” It was a very innocent question as all of us women were wondering as they didn’t look the same person and we wanted to know what the person looked like we were following.

Well, I started to receive several posts about my asking this question and how “mean” of me to post it on a public web thread, etc., etc., etc. I even had Admin’s and Kimmer respond to it. I posted back that it was an innocent question. Kimmer told me there were other places I could go if I wanted to cause trouble asking this question for the 10,0000th time (or whatever). I told Kimmer if it caused so many problems she could delete the thread. Kimmer refused to answer my question and to remove the thread. (NOTE: The thread has since been removed.) One person did stand up for me and state that she did not think the question was asked to be mean.

Immediately, I and the other ladies started posting about the conflict on our new thread named Jewels (June 25-28, 2007). We just couldn’t understand the controversy. We also asked the girl who supported us to join our group.

A few Personal Messages were sent back a forth between myself and our elected “team captain” for the thread. Apparently, Kimmer read our PMs.

Not knowing at the time how Kimmer “knew” anything we said, Kimmer sent myself and the team captain a not so nice PM telling us she “moved” our thread, wasn’t happy with what we were saying in our thread and to stop and get back to losing weight. Through this correspondence, we realized that Kimmer had read our PMs to each other as she stated things we only said in them.

Realizing that this was not an “open forum” and nothing was “private”, we immediately decided to exchange e-mail address and we communicated that way. We soon found another site where we all could go and communicate and not be threatened and not have to worry about asking “innocent” questions in the quest of our losing weight and supporting each other. Up until this time, we all had been very supportive on the Kimkin’s site and always tried to help the Newbie’s.

After moving to our new site, several of us still went to the KK site but posted very little. I changed my logon also from “katinsac” to “tinklc”. I stayed in some challenge groups as they were a help to me to continue losing. However, as a couple of our girls started having some problems, we realized real soon how unsafe this Way of Eating really was. One of the ladies was sick for two weeks, several gained a lot of weight by just eating off plan for one meal and it took a week or two to loose that weight. We all moved on to different types of diets for each of us. During this time we discovered Low Carb Friends and saw all the controversy and “why” this was a bad way to eat. This explained some of the problems some of the girls were having. Some of us went back to KK and started to delete our posts which had personal information in them, etc.

After reading Becky’s Blog (littlebit), I then realized that it was Becky who had “mentioned” to Kimmer about our thread, etc. I/I do not blame Becky as she was always nice and helpful to all. I didn’t see Becky give out a lot of “bad” advice but I did see Kimmer doing it and others who “learned the Kimmer way” give out advice they had seen her give.

My own problems with the KK plan was…I found myself eating between 100 and 300 cals a day due to the “don’t eat if not hungry” advice. It was nice not being hungry and the weight did come off pretty fast, however, I did tweek the K/E plan a little with bacon and spam. It was difficult when I stopped and tried to “up” my calories again too. To this day I still feel “weird” eating more. I also have noticed I am loosing more hair than usual when I brush my hair. I followed that plan for two months and now see why my hair is thinning.

To this day I have not been banned (yet) (9/11/2007). I thought for sure I’d get banned responding to Becky’s blog but haven’t. But, I’ve heard Kimmer has been trying to “clean up her act” also. The other reason may be that I changed my name right after our incident and maybe she hasn’t found me yet. I also don’t post often other than the weight loss challenge, just read what is going on.

As of 9/18/2007 I AM BANNED! I had made a comment on the “Kimmer Chatter” thread, where I “thought” we could say things about the controversy, but I guess not. My comment was deleted. I went back and asked why as it was not a “bad” comment and a new Admin chewed myself and another person out. She basically said if we didn’t like it there we could leave. Well, we both have been banned.

I do feel that this way of eating is unhealthy. I do feel that Kimmer took advantage of everyone just for the money. I do feel that Kimmer is a fraud. I know that Kimmer DID NOT loose the weight she claims to have. I do know that the pictures of Kimmer and most of the Before and After’s are not real. Need I go on? I feel this women’s site needs to be shut down to protect the innocent and this women needs to be accountable for what she has done. It is too bad that the information will always be able to be found by some unsuspecting person and I’m afraid of the harm. I’m sure someone has already been harmed but the problem with the Internet is….we will never know…they will just disappear.

Were you scammed by the Kimkins.com website?  Share your story at kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com

And don’t forget to join the lawsuit!

How Jeanessa Got Scammed

September 21, 2007

My first low carb diet was in 1998.  I was 19 years old, 193 pounds and determined to lose some weight!  A co-worker was doing Atkins and dropped 15 pounds in two weeks with very little effort.  I wanted to be like her.

So, I bought the Atkins book, read it from cover to cover and started low-carbing.  I lost about 25 pounds the first 3 weeks.   I went off the diet and sustained my loss for about six months before I quit and gained it all back plus some over the next nine years.

I gave thought to dieting again from time to time, joined Low Carb Friends (LCF) in 2004 and ALF around then.  I joined other sites as well, posted and tried to get going, but mostly lurked.  It was at LCF that I saw Kimmer’s posts.

She wrote very eloquently and seemed to show a lot of knowledge about low-carbing and dieting in general.  And she had lost a TON of weight: 198 pounds.  I thought her story was one of the great low carb successes that you read about and that was that.

I took a break from lurking for awhile and when I came back, Kimmer was in full force at LCF.  I found out about Kimkins when I saw a poster on LCF with the word Kimkins in the WOE portion of their profile.  Well, I looked up Kimkins and read all I could.  I read many of Kimmer’s posts and sucked up everything she had to say like a sponge.  But the diet looked pretty strict and I was of the opinion at that time that I needed something I could really and truly sustain for life, so I decided not to try it.

Several months later, a very close aunt of mine had a massive stroke at the age of 53 that left her in a wheelchair and partially paralyzed.  Within a few months of that, my moma had breathing problems and I rushed her to the ER.  I sat with her in triage for four hours and on February 23, 2007, she was diagnosed with lung cancer and given months to live.

I cried myself sick for days, but I got up.  I put a smile on my face and became an even better daughter to my mother.  I also looked myself in the eye and said, “Jeanessa, its time to do something about your weight.”

I decided to visit some of my infrequent haunts.  When I went to LCF, I saw that Kimkins had its own section and when I went there and lurked, someone said that Kimmer had started her own site called Kimkins and when I visited Jimmy Moore’s blog, he had some Kimkins success stories listed and a link.

On March 20, 2007, I signed up.

I spent several days reading posts and figuring out what would work for me to eat on the diet plan.  I saw people’s pictures and got excited!  People were really losing weight, so it had to be awesome.  Then, I read some people’s fitday journals and I paused. When I first saw 300 and 500 calorie day entries, I thought that maybe people just weren’t inputting all of their daily intake into fitday. Then, I saw 300 calories, 500 calories for whole months at a time! 

But…it was working and Kimmer seemed so adamant about it being safe and sustainable.  So many others had success.  I rifled through all of the success stories for inspiration and decided to get started.

I boiled up a batch of eggs and grilled chicken breasts and cut them into strips on my George Foreman.  I bought cans of tuna in water and Bumblebee chicken.  I bought iceberg lettuce and Wishbone Spritzer salad dressing.  I bought a case of Diet Rite soda.  I was ready to get started.

By noon of day two, I was so dizzy that I couldn’t stand.  My hands were shaking.  I felt like I was going to puke every time I so much as smelled a food-like substance.  I posted on Kimkins about SNATT and asked how long it took to get over SNATT and received a few encouraging responses.

I forged ahead.  It would be worth it to lose the weight.  By the time I got home, all I could do was park the car and sit there.  It took me a few minutes to make it into the house and when I did my husband took one look at me and said, “Nope, you’re not doing this diet.  Eat something now.  You can find another one to do.”

So, ended my foray into Kimkins.

I started to look around Kimkins with new eyes, ones that were no longer desperate for weight loss.  The calories and the benefits just didn’t add up.  There was no place to dissent on the Kimkins.com site and the few posts I read on LCF were immediately denounced.  I went to Jimmy’s blog.  He seemed like a nice reasonable guy and I trusted his advice.  So, I posted a comment on one of his Kimkins posts, asking how 500 calories could be healthy.

Jimmy told me that Kimkins did not advocate 500 calories.  And then Kimmer chimed in and asked me if I was afraid of Starvation Mode.  She referred me to an article she had written on Starvation Mode, describing how it did not exist.  She went on to say that I could wake up with diabetes one day and that would be irreversible.  No one else voiced anything in support of my question.  I felt well and truly silenced.

A while later, I read a blog, A Pinch Of, and she questioned Kimkins!  It rang so true for me and I posted there, thanking her for voicing a concern that I had.  How could 500 calories, low carb, unsupervised be this miracle diet that everyone was so excited about?

Within a few weeks, the Why the Fascination Thread became prominent and so many of us got the opportunity to come together and voice our concerns and see that we really did have the same questions and that something just wasn’t right.

Kimkins Survivors opened and my heart bled for those women who had been “tough enough” to sustain the diet.  I was so glad that I felt so awful those first few days and that my husband had voiced his concerns.

Then, Slamboard posted the pictures of Heidi K. Diaz, Kimmer, who I had always known to be Heidi from her LCF days.  And I posted in support of KimPossible after seeing her attacked for asking questions on the Kimkins website.  I was immediately banned without any warning or notice.  My request for a refund was denied.

It occured to me then, that Heidi had no intention of fessing up, of acknowledging the affect of her diet or addressing the allegations of fraud.

What a way to do business!  It became clear to me that she wasn’t going to address our concerns and neither was she going to stop without some outside assistance.  So, I contacted John.

Every one of our voices counts and is necessary.  We are not a means to an end, expendable or easily silenced.  Please join me in the fight to stop others from being scammed.

So, how did you get scammed?

Do you want your money back?

September 20, 2007

The last six weeks have revealed a myriad of problems with the diet plan found on the Kimkins.com website.  There are health issues, identity issues and even the issue of general plan information being free elsewhere on the web.

The history of these findings can be accessed all over the web.

If you are a member of Kimkins.com or were a member of Kimkins.com, you are eligible to participate in a class action lawsuit that is being organized by John E. Tiedt of www.tiedtlaw.com

There is strength in numbers and every voice counts!!!

If you would like to be a representative in the Kimkims.com Class Action Lawsuit, please send the following to kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com:

1.) Your legal name and mailing address

2.) A telephone number where you can be reached between the hours of 11am-8pm EST

3.) The amount you paid Kimkins.com

4.) The approximate date that you joined Kimkins.com as a paid member

You will not have to appear in court or pay a dime. 

We Need You!

September 19, 2007

It was suggested that I start a blog in order to include pertinent information regarding the Kimkins.com class action lawsuit that is being organized.  It is vital that a significant number of people who signed up/paid for Kimkins.com come forward to participate as representatives in the lawsuit in order for us to see “Kimmer” come to justice.

Participation only requires that you submit your legal contact information and financial information (proof that you paid).  

You will not have to show up in court. 

You will not have to pay a dime. 

You do not have to be banned. 

This lawsuit is not about being banned.  It is about the true identity of “Kimmer” and the fraudulent claims that were made in Kimkins.com advertising, along with the dangers of the diet and medical advice given through Kimkins.com. 

The attorney who is investigating this case is John E. Tiedt, a great consumer fraud attorney based in Riverside, CA, who can be reached via the following:

www.tiedtlaw.com

jtiedt@tiedtlaw.com

951-343-3320

If you would like to be a representative in this case, please e-mail me the following at kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com:

1.) Your legal contact information, including full name and mailing address.

2.) A telephone number(s) where you can be reached between the hours of 11am – 8pm EST. (If you can not be reached before 5pm EST, specify that in your e-mail.

3.) The amount that you paid to Kimkins.com

4.) The approximate date that you paid Kimkins.com

I look forward to hearing from you soon!